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Old March 22nd, 2004, 12:54 PM
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Default We really need some new, INVENTIVE, responses

OK.. I'm relying on you "Chit Chat Folks" to show your creativity here.

In all the "Hot Button" threads that rear themselves every so often on the boards, we eventually see all the same "standard" arguments.

Bringing your Booze - we have the "cruise line prices are TOO high" on one side of the arguement-
If you can afford to cruise, you can afford to buy drinks... on the the other side.

Dress codes - we get the Dress because it's the stated rules side, and we get the folks who want to dress are snobs side... or the "dress police" arguement.

KIddies running wild - we get the my kids are angels side, and we get the ... it's the parents fault side.

Deck chair hogs - we get the... it's so rude to hog chairs, the cruise line should do something about it side, and we get the.. I save em because everyone does side

Smoking... we get the... smoking stinks and you're going to die arguement, and we get the perfume is worse arguement.

Bad trip reports - we get the ... NEVER SAIL THIS CRUISE LINE again side, and we get the... a cruise is what you make it side.... and then the NEVER AGAIN folks claim anyone that says anything positive folks work for the cruise line, and we get the "what you make it folks saying the NEVER AGAIN folks work for a competing cruise line.

There are others of course, but let's see you guys pick one, and regardless of what side of the argument you might ACTUALLY fall on, come up with some fun and INVENTIVE retorts to match any of the particular topics

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Old March 22nd, 2004, 01:13 PM
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My standard response for those who have the temerity to disagree with me from now on is "Bite Me!"

Hows that Kuki???? ; D

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Old March 22nd, 2004, 01:29 PM
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How about the people who will always find ants at a picnic, stale bread at a buffet, rain at a family reunion and such? No matter what endeavor they are participating in they will always find the wrongs.

Some folk's outlook on life is completely different than others and that's what makes humanity interesting.

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Old March 22nd, 2004, 01:58 PM
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Kuki,

Ohh, I know, you forgot one!!

Tips...one side where we tip everyone we meet over the recommended amount, even the Captain of the ship...to it is the cruise line's job to pay decent wages and thus we tip no one....
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Old March 22nd, 2004, 02:36 PM
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in keeping with the trend of some companies to have a "menu" for selection of health benefits to fit your need, why not come up with a "cruise benefit menu" that allows the cruiser to select which side of the above mention issues to be on..then have a pro-rated "credit" off your future cruise fare that is based upon your selections (i.e. don't like the food- $25 credit for a future cruise if you agree to prepare the food the way you like it for your tablemates for one evening , don't think you should tip -$25 credit for those that promise to get it themselves next cruise)
boy Kiki, you really know how to stir up a hornet's nest (smile)..sometimes I think that people have forgotten why one takes a vacation and must recognize that when you bring together 3000 people from diverse backgrounds and expectations and place them in a closed enviroment (a ship) you are going to get 3000 experiences..I would suspect that people who love to cruise and do it often have less overall complaints and have a tendency to "roll with the punches"..Cruiselines marketing departments try to 'sell" a cruise to meet everyone's dreams of what it should be but it boils down to even on the worse cruise, a person's positive attitude and the ship's staff's positive attitude will make a great vacation. Chat rooms like yours are great because it gives everyone a chance to 'praise" or "vent"..and cruisers love to do both
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Old March 22nd, 2004, 02:42 PM
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OK....I HAD A REALLY BAD DAY AT A ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS MEETING....
SO HERE IS MY REPLY.....WHAT ABOUT SENIOR CITIZENS DISCOUNTS ON
EVERYTHING ON BOARD WE EARNED IT. BY THE WAY I AM A SENIOR SO
DON'T GET TOO CROTCHITY.....
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Old March 22nd, 2004, 02:50 PM
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Kuki---

When do you work, if any. It is in the middle of the day and you come with this sort of stuff. JK. You are interrupting my retired life. JK.

I have no opinion. Just like to cruise and take what comes along.

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Old March 22nd, 2004, 03:25 PM
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Really mooseman, shouldn't you be tending bar? {{wink}}

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Old March 22nd, 2004, 04:45 PM
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On the Booze issue, sometimes what I would really like to say is, "Ihope you get caught bringing it on and you get denied boarding" .

On the dress code issue, I would like to see a "Diamond Vision " board (like at the ballpark) in the dining room. When someone is inappropriately dressed, a spotlight would come on and a camera would follow them through the dining room, flashing their picture on the Diamond Vision (with their name and cabin number flashing underneath)..

On the kids running wild issue, the kids should be caught and put in a closet until the cruise is over , then given back to the parents, who, in the interim should be told that their kid was seen overboard.

On the deck chair issue, I think you should be allowed to chuck the stuff overboard.

The smokers should get chucked overboard with the deck chair hoggers stuff or locked in the closet with the wild kids.

My answer to the "I'll never sail this cruise line again" folks is "fine. don't ,who cares".
Can you tell by my very diplomatic and warm, fuzzy and caring responses to these things that I am not having a good day today?
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Old March 22nd, 2004, 04:53 PM
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Venice... think you've struck on a TERRIFIC idea..

For threads where these topics come up, we could just have drop down menus of responses...

Pro Kids point of view- selective from
A.
B.
C.
D.

Anti Kids point of view- select from
A.
B.
C.
D.

Generic arguements points of view - select from
A. You must work for the cruiseline
B. You must work for another cruiseline
C. You should get a life
D. I have a life, you should get a life
E. Grow up
F. Time for everyone to quit posting and let this thread end.
G. Then why did you post telling us to stop posting

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Old March 22nd, 2004, 05:49 PM
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I'm just happy to be so lucky to cruise at all!

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PapaBill, I loved your response Trip....
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Old March 22nd, 2004, 08:03 PM
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Some of these arguements would be done for if the cruise lines would just enforce their own rules; i.e., dress code at dinner, saving lounge chairs, and the ever-present smoking issue.

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Too funny-and way too much time on your hand Kuki :-)

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As usual I have an opinion. It can be found at:

http://www.hampsterdance.com/hampsterdanceredux.html

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Old March 23rd, 2004, 07:37 AM
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Although we have yet to do our first cruise I would like to address these issues from this first timers prospective if I may.

1. Booze smuggling. A. If ya can't afford the drinks don't cruise. B. Cruise line should not abuse the captive audience with such high prices for drinks.

2. Dress Code. There are at least two dining rooms on board. No reason to not have a formal and cruise casual setting for both to enjoy serving the same menu. If the formal setting is indeed all that popular you will have no trouble running both venues. If as I suspect that maybe it's cool once or twice the dining room designated formal will soon be as vacant as a ghost town with tommy dorsey echoing in its walls.

3. Kids running wild. Smack EM!

4. Cruise line should provide deck chairs for say approx 45% of the passengers. This should more that cover anyone wanting one getting one.

5. Smoking! When you people freely give up the tax dollars you collect on my legal habit you can complain about my smoking. Until that time shut the hell up.

6. Tipping. If tipping is really an intrigal part of a cruise price just add it on up front. Make it part of the cruise price. Saying it would add to the price of a cruise is just stupid, since in fact it ALREADY is a part of the price since it is expected. Kinda like buying a car and then dealer tells ya at the end of the deal ya know yer really gonna want wheels and tires for that thing or ya aint going to far!

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On the drink price issue...I really don't think that drinks (at least my bourbon) on ships are any more expensive than most bars you go out to at home.
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(JDesimone said; Smoking! When you people freely give up the tax dollars you collect on my legal habit you can complain about my smoking. Until that time shut the hell up.)


I am an ex-smoker, my husband still smokes. But I have to agree with what you said. It's not fair that smokers pay higher taxes for the product and then are banned from smoking in a lot of places. In the last 4 years 3 bingo halls in our area went from having smoking sections to banning smoking all together. How is that fair. Would the tables be turned if we had signs on places that said "smokers only". What's even more outrageous is the same people who voted to ban the smoking in the bingo halls, are the same ones that take weekly trips to the riverboat casino's, where smoking is allowed everywhere. GO FIGURE

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There's been so much said about 'bringing booze on board' that it almost makes one want to give up drinking. Notice, I said almost. What's the issue here? Should I do what somebody else thinks I should do, or should I do what I feel like doing (within reason )as long as I'm not hurting anybody else?

To bring booze , or a tuxedo, or formal ware, or anything else that don't hurt or endanger anybody else is an individual decision ,so why should you or I sit in judgment of what someone else chooses to do. If you think bringing liquor on board is cheap - so be it! Do you think your opinion is going to influence others?? I may be naieve but I don't think so.

Do we take booze to a football game because they don't sell the stuff at the stadium?
Do we sometimes take a sandwich to work when there's a cafeteria downstairs?
Do we take novels on board to read when there's usually a good supply at one of the ships's stores?
Do we take a drink or two down to a hotel lobby when the bar is within spitting distance?
Some of us do but some of us don"t.
Why are these a problem???
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Old March 24th, 2004, 01:18 PM
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Happy, the whole smuggling booze aboard, and the dress code thing irks a lot of folks because the policy is in writing from the cruise ship. Its breaking the rules and for some/most folks we were brought up to believe that rules serve a purpose and should be followed. I know i am probably going to get tromped on this one, but in my personal observations the higher-end mass market cruise lines don't seem to have as many rule- breakers aboard.
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Rules Rules Rules...
Funny thing about rules .....some want only to enforce the rules that favor them.. for instance..
Last fall on my cruise a man with his insulated cup full of smuggled hooch was ranting about chair saving,The funny thing was , he didn't give up his lounge chair when he had to run back and forth to his room for refills..he saved "his chair"with a towel!! Same guy was with a group of people that took turns "saving seats" in the front of the theatre.

I will admit I smuggled booze on my first cruise...(I smuggled my vodka in a mouthwash bottle and colored it blue)
I was told drinks were "outrageous".
As it turned out, drinks were actually cheaper than what we paid on Bourbon Street,
(and the bathrooms are FREE!) and about the same as any club. I didn't go on a cruise to play bartender in my room. SOooo, my Absolute had a nice vacation and we drank the blue vodka at our first party after we got home.

My favorite retort...I could have been worse..could have happened to me.
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