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Old March 30th, 2004, 12:23 PM
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This has absolutely nothing to do with our travel plans (future) but i was reading something about the Jones Act that says you can't embark in one US port and debark in another --my question is what happens when you start your travel in one port and end in another such as the repositioning cruises that start in Miami and end up in Long Beach or the Holiday that starts in NO and ends up in Alabama???
As i said this just strikes my curiosity.

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The Jones Act stipulates that in order for a merchant vessel to embark from one U.S. port and disembark in another U.S. port the ship must be American flagged and staffed. So to get around this law cruiselines will visit a foreign port before returning to the U.S. This law was enacted to protect U.S. maritime employees. This is why you won't find cruiselines doing an itinerary from New Orleans to Key West to Miami, or Fort Lauderdale to Charleston to Baltimore to New York. They will always visit a foreign port.

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Old March 30th, 2004, 01:39 PM
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At some point the ship MUST stop at a foreign port within that cruise even if it is just repositioning. As long as they have stopped in a foreign port, which a cruise from Miami to Long Beach would most likely do they are fine.

They cannot start in one US port and get off in another without the foreign stop unless they are a FLAGGED American ship which they must than pay employees by the US laws and pay taxes by US laws.
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Old March 30th, 2004, 01:42 PM
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That makes sense. Thank you

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Actually it is the Passenger Service Act that controls people with the Jones Act controlling goods. As explained, so long as the ship visits a "distant foriegn port" then it is okay. Understand that "distant" apparently is like Clinton's discription of the word "is". <> actual distance really is not a factor!
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The language of the law specifies contiguous US ports. Which explains why it's okay to sail from Miami, or Lauderdale, (for example) and stop at Key West, before going to a foreign port. It's all in the details.


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Key West should count as a foreign port. It's the Conch Republic, after all.

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Distant foreign ports are the ABC Islands and Columbia. That is why you see most Panama Canal cruises stop in Aruba, Cartagena, or San Andres Island.

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Old March 30th, 2004, 10:46 PM
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Interesting, i've learned something new today.
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