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Old June 29th, 2009, 07:41 PM
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Has anybody read my comments on the cruise crime bill?

I think the thing is a nightmare. I am just wondering, isn't anyone other than myself worried about where they are going with this thing?

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I think that we should fight crime in our cities and towns. It's much safer to be on a cruiseship.

As for lawyers there are too many of them in this country. Many of them are vultures and leeches and even worse some of them become politicians.

THA BILL NEEDS TO BE SCRAPPED

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Thank you for replying, I was beginning to think I was alone in this cause.

Seriously, what other entity is required to re-report all REPORTED complaints to the federal government? I mean, they want a list of every complaint anyone ever makes, whether or not it turns out to be true or not. And they want them re-reported on the Internet.

Are public schools even held to such a standard, or airlines, hotels or foreign nations?
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Politicians are sinking our country isn't that enough? Do they have try to sink the cruise insdustry as well?

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Paul, you're not alone. The lawyers see a cash cow in the cruise lines so their going to milk it however they can. It's basically an untapped gold mine to them and they and their cronies in D.C will see that congress and the public are led to believe that cruises are dangerous hot beds of sin and crime.

Everyday here in my home town it's something in the news about a robbery, shooting, beating, rape or something and I live in a city a little under 300,000 people. Multiply the crime we have in the streets all across the U.S. each day and compare that to TRUE crime that actually happens on cruise ships that haul approx. 12 million people each year and the figure is miniscule.

I know I'll catch some heat from what I'm about to say but I think some of these so called crimes--rape among them-- are a stretch. No doubt there is some true crime on ships but to try to paint a picture of the cruiselines in the way that some are is simply ridiculous. It's all about money because once they breach the dam on suing the cruiselines everytime someone has a beef or cries wolf, the lawsuits will fly.

Expect in the not too distant future to see balconies enclosed with plexi-glass and no open railings at all. We'll sail in a cocoon--breathe recycled air and then sue the cruiseline because we got sick.
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Ron, I agree with everything you said. On my last cruise I was in my balcony with my DW, and I also felt that someday we will lose the freedom to enjoy the proximity and beauty of the ocean in the privacy of our balconies.

thanks for a great post.

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HOORAY for you guys to tell it like it is. Just follow the money, and it all comes back to the lawyers, and Washington D.C. Crime gets worse and worse in our neighborhoods, and they're chasing so called criminals at sea. I have no doubt there are crimes at sea, but what are the percentages? I'd bet there isn't one crime at sea for every ten thousand in our major cities.

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I cannot say I am to worried and its not a nightmare for me.JMHO as you have asked what others think.
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Any person with common sense is much safer on a cruiseship than they are in their hometown.

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Politicians are sinking our country isn't that enough? Do they have try to sink the cruise insdustry as well?

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The sponsors of this bill probably got a payoff from the land-based resort industry. Has anyone ever caught a cruise ship crewman with ninety grand in his freezer? Until they do, I hardly think Congress should be telling the cruise industry how to operate.
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CLIA signed off on it.

Seems they would be your lobbyist organization to fight for your concerns in this matter. Or, as anyone can do, call or write your representative.

Whining here will do nothing.

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