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geojans September 4th, 2008 10:56 AM

New gambler and new cruiser need answers
:D Hi everyone,
I am trying to prepare for my upcoming cruise and was wondering if there is any staff in casinos that will instruct you on how to play. I have gotten some instructions from books but I am a hands on type girl and would like someone to guide me for a few plays.

Also what is the charge for playing bingo? around here it between $2-5 a card, I think. I haven't played in so long I'm not sure anymore. Several of my travel mates plan on doing a lot of bingo playing. Just thought I would let them in on price of playing.

dvrdude September 4th, 2008 01:06 PM

I don't know anything about Bingo, but as far as casino gaming goes I can help. On every cruise I have been on there are classes taught in the casino about playing specific games. They are usually in the morning right as the casino opens for the day and are announced over the PA system and also listed in the daily activity papers that will be delivered to your stateroom. Hope this helps.

Another thing. your avatar is creeping me out! :shock: 8)

geojans September 4th, 2008 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dvrdude
Another thing. your avatar is creeping me out! :shock: 8)

I'm just LOOKING in on you to see what's happening on cruisemates. I am a nosy person, want to see all, do all and be everywhere at once. LOL

zdgp September 5th, 2008 09:59 AM

If you are going to spend significant time in the casino, learn the basics of blackjack. I enjoy interacting with the other players at the table, and blackjack has the lowest house percentage when played correctly—i.e. you lose money more slowly.

Pilotdane September 5th, 2008 08:58 PM

If you wish to drink I like craps. The house edge can be low and once you know what to do there is really no thinking involved. If you do not drink and can stick to the strategy then blackjack is great.

Every throw of the craps dice is independent so there is no memorizing and really no strategy. Once you have set your strategy you just throw the dice without much thinking involved. Did I mention you get to throw things and yell!

In craps there is no house advantage on odds bets. They pay at true odds. So if you start with a pass line bet the normal house edge is 1.41%. When you take odds on that bet (which have no house advantage) you start to dilute the house edge and cut it to fractions of a percent. With 5x odds on the pass line (which is very common) you cut the house advantage to .33%. It is always the same no matter who is playing or how many drinks you've had.

Now try calculating the house advantage on blackjack. It depends on the number of decks, when the dealer hits and stands not to mention how the person sitting next to you plays.

When in doubt play something that makes you smile and STOP PLAYING when you stop smiling. The house does not have to cheat because the rules are written to their advantage and the house wins in the long run.

jackieb September 8th, 2008 02:04 PM

What are the craps table minumum?

Pilotdane September 10th, 2008 10:00 PM

$5 is a popular CRAPS table minimum but often it's $10 or more at busy times. Generally its about the same as you will find at a blackjack table. The big difference is that you can sit down at a blackjack table with $5 and play a hand and have the low house edge with good strategy, where you need $30 at the CRAPS table ($5 for your minimum pass line bet and $25 for your 5x odds to get the house edge down). Generally $30-$70 a hand is what I consider average for a round of Craps with a $5 minimum and you need $100 to step up to the table.

zdgp September 11th, 2008 08:21 AM

Sometimes the table minimums are lower on the first day of a cruise. You can try a game and risk less than usual.

Pilotdane September 11th, 2008 08:37 AM

Also, do not fall prey to penny and nickel slot machines. For many the max play button will cost you two dollars or more per spin. Many nickel machines allow you to play up to 45 coins per spin. That is $2.25 per spin!

If you are new to gambling just remember it can be fun, it can be addictive and it can ruin your life.

I have a set amount I will gamble in a day. Each day's money goes into an envelope. If I walk away from a game a winner then the profit goes into the safe and NEVER returns to the casino. If I loose my daily money I do not play again until the next day. If at any time I am not have a lot of fun I leave the casino. I will not give the house $50 a hand to be miserable. Prior to this system I had a gambling budget which I stuck to but I would keep playing until my gambling money was gone. It guarantees you will loose because you play until it is all gone. Now with a more structured system I am actually ahead, and even if you have a bad day or two you can always remember those good days where you carried money home.

zdgp September 12th, 2008 06:32 AM

Another thought -- avoid roulette. The house edge is 5.26% -- very high.

Pilotdane September 12th, 2008 08:15 AM

The house edge for roulette with zero and a double zero is indeed 5.26%. If you play a single zero wheel the house advantage drops to 2.7% which is much better, but it is still a suckers game. Playing the 0, 00, 1, 2, 3 combination pays only 6:1 and has a house advantage of almost 8%. Again adgp is correct. Stay away from roulette.

Even though I promote CRAPS you need to stay away from the center of the table; proposition bets (a bit complicated) and the hard ways (betting that the dice will be the same like 3 and 3 to make a "hard 6" (no giggling or snickering please). The best bets in the center have a house advantage of 5.56 and go down to more than 17% house advantage. All very much sucker bets.

dragonkarate September 17th, 2008 07:26 AM

I agree

hombre October 4th, 2008 02:10 PM

i like to play video poker; never get a chance at home, which is probably good. i take an allowance to the casino -- usually $50 a day. i put it into machines, say 20/20/10, and immediately cash out. this is my play money. i put it into a cup. now, i'm most likely never going to lose it all - there will be some wins -- sometimes nice wins. whatever. after the money is gone, i scoop the coins, take them back to my cabin. the next day, i use fresh paper money; i NEVER shove the other day's coins back into action -- that's how you can really lose. at the end of the cruise, i take the accumulated tokens and cash them in. then, i give the money to the lido deck staff and others who have been so very good to make my cruise a time to remember. they send it home to families in very poor situations, usually. and everyone wins!!!!!!!!!! giving is such a wonderful thing.

ps: my theory -- first and last nights are better to play; they can and do ratchet those machines all the time. one machine really pays? bet it won't the next day; i've had experience here. also, play the machines closest to the entrance to the casino; nothing like money hitting the bins and a little music to bring in the crowds. if you find a machine you like; stay with it through 'thick and thin.' if you see a lonely machine, move on, there's a reason. if somebody is ensconced at 'your' machine, stand in back of them and make impatient, snorting noices. (only kidding, of course -- patiently wait for them to leave and them make a lunge like you are playing ol for the packers). gooooooooooood luck, and have fun.

hombre October 4th, 2008 02:12 PM

and by the way fellow geojans -- GO DAWGS.

brad813 January 30th, 2009 06:56 AM

Rule of thumb in all casinos, whether land, sea, or (if anyone actually pulls this one off) air, is if you do not know how to play, find a low stakes table that isn't very busy and ask the casino host or dealer to teach you. Also, some casinos will have lessons available in popular games such as poker and blackjack for free or for a modest fee.

Stevan77 January 30th, 2009 08:23 PM

Are the blackjack rules the same as Vegas - as far as dealer standing?

brad813 January 30th, 2009 08:35 PM

Though I have not been in a ship casino, I believe that is a general rule of blackjack.

Kuki January 30th, 2009 08:45 PM

Most lines have the dealer hitting on soft 17 now.

zdgp February 9th, 2009 06:03 AM

Dealer hits soft 17
The rule change wherein the dealer hits a soft 17, instead of standing on all 17’s, is significant. In the game played on most cruise ships; i.e. eight decks or a CSM, the house percentage increases from .45% to .66% (assuming you play correct basic strategy). This is about a 50% increase in the house edge, just by having the dealer hit soft 17.

Some people actually like the new rule, because the dealer busts more often. However, this is more than offset by the times the dealer improves his hand.

jmaul99 April 9th, 2009 01:04 PM

Learn Texas Hold em' and play $1/$2 no limit which is offered on Carnival Corp. cruise lines. RCCL is $3/$5 no limit so avoid playing on RCCL. Your playing other players not the house. Minimum buy in is $100 but if you stay patient, and play tight aggressive you should be able to stay even or make a profit. Most players are reckless when playing $1/$2 NL. Just returned from a Princess cruise and won $200 after buying for the minimum the 2nd night. Was only down $10 at one point, but stayed ahead the rest of the cruise. During the week I only won 9 hands and still tripled my money. Remember patients is a virtue, and its not how many hands you win, but how much money you win each hand that counts.

brad813 April 9th, 2009 01:21 PM

Good advice, if you can play poker. In any case, I didn't know the patients themselves were virtues. I thought it was patience that was a virtue.

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