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Old January 29th, 2001, 10:13 PM
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Hi I am new to cruising. Being single and not able to convince my friends to accompany me, I've been looking at gay groups like Atlantis. Everywhere I look it seems that us single folk have to pay a "penalty" for not having a partner to share a stateroom. I am a little leary about hooking up with a total stranger.


Being gay, I am not too keen on these "singles" cruises. I don't want to have to fend off advances by women. If I had won the lottery,then I wouldn't be complaining about the "single suppliment". So where can a single gay guy get the most cruise experience for his dollar?

Alternatively, I would also appreciate suggestions for all-inclusive Mexican resorts, Gulfside. Are there any gay friendly ones that won't totally gauge a single traveler?

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Old January 30th, 2001, 06:05 AM
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Brian, I would also suggest checking out RSVP and their cruise/resort program. They're at: www.RSVP.net and I prefer them to Atlantis. I did an Atlantis resort thing 1 1/2 years ago and was highly disappointed by the owner/staff's attitudes - very chi-chi WeHo. Even to the point that every night when I went to diinner (single) the one twerp would always ask, rather loudly, "Still alone?" The whole program seemed very disorganized and amateurish. I've been on 9 RSVP cruises and one of the RSVP land resorts. They usually have a bigger selection of cruises. They're very proffesional, friendly, caring. I'd say half to 3/4 of these are couples, average age 30-40 with plenty on either side.They also allow women (lesbians, I assume) but few attend (2-4 %). Their entertainment is almost always better, too. More info - email me... I'll be going on the 11-18 Feb cruise, and probably one again next year.
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Old January 30th, 2001, 11:50 AM
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There are deals for singles out there on regular cruises, you have to shop around. Usually if they are offering a really cheap rate on a double, then even the penalty of 150% to 200% can still be doable. In fact, I'm finding better single rates now than when I went on my first cruise 4 years ago. The web helps (for pricing. I use a flesh & blood travel agent). I'm going on Celebrity's Mercury and the single guaranty was only $850. When I booked it. I've never been on RSVP or Atlantis because the prices seem way too high. And I've been told that it works better for couples than singles. Well good luck and if you have any more questions, fire away. P.S. Nice photo!
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Old January 30th, 2001, 12:04 PM
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I think the RSVP/Atlantis trips often work better for couples because most things, in general work better for couples. Going single to anything is frequently like being an unwanted third wheel. And if one goes completely alone, not knowing ANYONE on the ship (like I usually do), it can be especially trying. Luckilly for me, I'm pretty outgoing, which helps. Also, Ocean Princess is a "straight" ship, but their Assistant Cruise Director (Ritchie) always tries to organize "Friends-of-Dorothy" Parties, every cruise, and I've heard that several other ships/lines do these too.
Another route is Pied Piper :
( http://home.att.net/~PIED-PIPER-TRAVEL/PIED_PIPER.html )
which offers escorted gay groups several times a year, especially on the QE2. I found, on a recent one, that it wasn't quite for me - a generally older group (45+).
I've found, on "straight" cruises, I tend to gravitate towards the people working on the ship (pursers/entertainers/staff) who are usually quite willing to strike up a conversation and occasionally invite one to the staff/crew bar downstairs - although I DON'T want to imply anything sexual about these invites.
On another recent cruise (Carnival Victory), I was seated at a dinner table for 8 (5 men, 3 spinsters), and 3 of the men and I got along famously, especially after I casually "came out" to them. Turned out, that one was "unsure" of himself. He's "sure" now - sure family.
Have fun!!
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Old January 30th, 2001, 05:01 PM
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Thanks for your reply! Do you have any experience with land based all inclusives as well?
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Old January 31st, 2001, 07:03 AM
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I've done one land-based with Atlantis and one with RSVP. The Atlantis one was a disaster (see previous post - "Oh, are you still alone?"), combined with being on St. Maarten during Hurricane Jose. The RSVP one was okay, but much more laid-back than a cruise and usually much fewer people (500-600) than a cruise (1200-2000). Both seem to be equal in terms of singles vs. couples (25-35% vs. 65-75%). One has much more free time for pool/tanning and much less structured activities. Although RSVP usually does theirs at a chartered club med with plenty of optional free & extra-cost activities and Atlantis does theirs at a plain resort near "pay-as-you-go" activities.
I prefer more people and more activities so I stick with cruises. Plus you get the added fact of visiting different locations daily.
Just personal opinion but I will NEVER do Atlantis again.
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