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Old April 10th, 2010, 04:51 PM
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Are you allowed to smoke on Holland's Balconies???

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You can smoke on your balcony and the stateroom.

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Old April 10th, 2010, 09:58 PM
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Yes you are allow. but the smoke can travel to the next balcony.
try not to smoke if someone is on their Balcony.
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Yes you are allow. but the smoke can travel to the next balcony.
try not to smoke if someone is on their Balcony.

Or speak to your neighbours and make sure it's OK with them if they are on the balcony also. Just be respectful of them. Who knows, they may also smoke.

If the ash tray you are using is an open one, unlike the ones found on the Lido deck, then please do not leave it outside when you come in. You never know if the cigarette is still lit/smoulding and if a gust of wind should come along and blow it over the side or onto the furniture on your balcony. I think this is what happened on the Princess ship that had a fire on one of the balconies......at least I think it was Princess.

Anyway, enjoy your cruise and have a great time.
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Are you allowed to smoke on Holland's Balconies???
Holland America is a big smoking ship. I will never sail with them again. But, if you are a smoker, you will be in heaven. "Ashtray of the Seas" is the nickname. If you haven't quit yet, you will enjoy. But, if you are like me, a non-smoker, you will find it insufferable, no matter what. Oh, people will say, oh<I never smelled it and all that, but the reality is, if you are sensitive to the smell, you will say, "ugh, that really (use your imagination)".
But I get in trouble for my o-pinions.
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Oh dear. I am a non-smoker and highly allergic to cigarette smoke, and am
going on HAL next month. I sure hope I don't have balcony smokers near me!
As for the original poster, I think all cruiselines allow smoking on balconies....

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Oh dear. I am a non-smoker and highly allergic to cigarette smoke, and am
going on HAL next month. I sure hope I don't have balcony smokers near me!
As for the original poster, I think all cruiselines allow smoking on balconies....

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Oh dear. I am a non-smoker and highly allergic to cigarette smoke, and am
going on HAL next month. I sure hope I don't have balcony smokers near me!
As for the original poster, I think all cruiselines allow smoking on balconies....

donna
You will have no problem with smoke odor on board . As DeeDee said there many places where smoking is not permitted. I have cruise many times On HAL and We are non smokers. GO, enjoy your cruise. you will
want to cruise again on HAL.
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You will have no problem with smoke odor on board . As DeeDee said there many places where smoking is not permitted. I have cruise many times On HAL and We are non smokers. GO, enjoy your cruise. you will
want to cruise again on HAL.
yes, you are correct. However, woe to you who has booked a balcony and has smokers on either side of you. It's awful.
If I booked HAL again, which isn't going to happen in a hurry, I'd book oceanview cabins. That way, I'd be assured of clean air.
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Old April 12th, 2010, 09:45 PM
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We have cruised with HAL three times with verandahs. We have had smokers near us on all trips. However, it was not too offensive but we made our presence known by various methods. No matter where we go in life, there are smokers, especially outdoors. We avoid the casinos because they are full of smokers but that means we save money!! !! At least we are out in the open and the smoke blows away.
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yes, you are correct. However, woe to you who has booked a balcony and has smokers on either side of you. It's awful.
If I booked HAL again, which isn't going to happen in a hurry, I'd book oceanview cabins. That way, I'd be assured of clean air.
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I agree. I will never pay extra for a balcony on HAL as my last cruise on HAL my neighbor was a cigar smoker and you know how bad that smells. Of course that was almost 6 years ago and I have not cruised HAL again. I am not saying never though because for the right itinerary I would.

To be fair Carnival Corporation which owns HAL also owns Princess, a very similar line except Princess doesn't allow smoking in rooms and on balconies. I think CC has covered the market by offering both choices to the cruising public.
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Holland America is a big smoking ship. I will never sail with them again. But, if you are a smoker, you will be in heaven. "Ashtray of the Seas" is the nickname. If you haven't quit yet, you will enjoy. But, if you are like me, a non-smoker, you will find it insufferable, no matter what. Oh, people will say, oh<I never smelled it and all that, but the reality is, if you are sensitive to the smell, you will say, "ugh, that really (use your imagination)".
But I get in trouble for my o-pinions.

I don't understand your statement that HAL is a big smoking ship.

The only places that smoking is allowed INSIDE the ship is in the Casino and Sports Bar. These can easily be avoided if you are allergic to smoke or don't like the smell of it. Some nights the Casino is a "No Smoking" area.

Unlike years ago smoking is no longer allowed in any of the dining rooms, Crow's Nest, Ocean Bar, Explorer's Lounge, Lido, Dolphin Bar, mid-ship pool, etc. Smoking is only allowed on the Starboard side of the aft pool and at the aft bar.

Yes, you can smoke in your cabin and on your verandah, but I am sure the day will come when all HAL ships will be "smoke free". We have sailed HAL for nearly 30 years and not once have I "smelled smoke" in our cabin...yes, I have smelled it as I walk by a cabin where someone is smoking, but that's about it . Our DD is very sensitive to the smell of smoke & perfume and I have never heard her complain about the smell of smoke in our cabin..........she has complained about someone wearing too much perfume in the elevator. She avoids the Casino and the Sports Bar areas and the Starboard side of the outdoor pool.
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I have been in Vegas casinos and they reek of smoke and aerosols trying to cover up the smell of smoke. So I presume HAL is like this. I really regret booking our first cruise now on any line. And just because the port side of the aft pool is smoke free does not mean that the smoke just drifts across, just like in the non-smoking part of a restaurant. Bad news. What do you do if your cabin stinks of cigarette smoke? Put up and shut up?
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I have been in Vegas casinos and they reek of smoke and aerosols trying to cover up the smell of smoke. So I presume HAL is like this. I really regret booking our first cruise now on any line. And just because the port side of the aft pool is smoke free does not mean that the smoke just drifts across, just like in the non-smoking part of a restaurant. Bad news. What do you do if your cabin stinks of cigarette smoke? Put up and shut up?
If you think your cabin smells (of anything) let your Room Steward know and they'll take care of the smell. They have "magic" freshener's that will get rid of any odor.
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I don't know what they use to get rid of the smoke odour but whatever it is sure does the trick.

Our DD can smell smoke a mile away and never once in all her cruises with us has she ever complained about smelling smoke in the cabin.
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Except for HAL, being the only game in town among the majors, which allow smoking on balconies, there isn't much problem anymore with smokers on cruises.

Of course there a few of the smaller lines like Fred Olsen Cruise lines, Safa and Seabourn which do. But HAL gets so much attention that one website reserved a thread on their HAL forum just for HAL smoking concerns. Not any more though. Got so testy and nasty that the moderator closed the thread. Almost humorous at times. One of the big problems is that posters continually get way off topic. Another is that they start picking on each other, to the point of screeching. What I hate most is all the fabrication of fact, misleading straw man argument bandied about and outright lying.

As I first posted on that thread, "Any rate, we watch and wait, and pay attention to those HAL posters with very recent HAL cruise experience in order to become knowledgeable about any pertinent trends that might germinate. In the meantime, HAL will be sailing without us.", so we still are watching/listening and not getting any younger while at it. I'm getting ready to completely bag it with HAL, maybe by adding another line to our repertoire, if we can find one we like.

If you are a HAL cruiser, I wouldn't get as discouraged as we are though, providing you don't do the long voyages. It is probably a pretty good gamble that on a week or so cruise one won't run into a problem with an adjacent balcony smoker.

Our problem is four fold with HAL: 1. HAL not only allows cigarette smoking on balconies but they also allow cigars. 2. We book balconies, if not available we don't sail. 3. We like long voyages and for the most part shun short ones. 4. HAL is the only major cruise line which allows balcony smoking and it is clearly evident that smokers put off by recent no balcony smoking rules on their previous favorite line(s) are gravitating toward HAL for their smoking cruise experience, upping the possibility one will get smokers as neighbors since the percentage of smoking guests are higher on HAL now than any of the others. Therefore, it is not worth the gamble to pay all that money for a cruise where we take the chance of getting stuck with chain smoking cigar smokers on nearby balconies for weeks on end.


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"...there isn't much problem anymore with smokers on cruises."


There is a reason for that. There aren't many smokers left.
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I don't seem to know anyone who smokes anymore.
But having next door smokers on a ship puts a damper on enjoying a relaxing time on a balcony.

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Holland America is one of the few lines that still allows smoking on the balcony. I don't know any major line that allows smoking inside the cabin.

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Holland America is one of the few lines that still allows smoking on the balcony. I don't know any major line that allows smoking inside the cabin.

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I have been on recent cruises where the cabin upon entering on day #1 smelled from cigarettes.
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Yes and on starboard side of lower promenade of most ships and usually one outdoor bar. Casino IF playing and limited to certain areas.
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Just finished a cruise on the Westerdam on 9/5/15. Yes you can smoke on the veranda. Make sure you ask the steward for a closed ashtray - you remember the kind where you push the small post built into the ashtray and the silver disc spins around taking the cig butt with it. Just make sure the butts are out before you leave it unattended as it gets a bit windy - overly cautious probably but better safe than sorry. You can also smoke in the casino I believe as well as the outdoor portion (on one side) of the Lido deck (very few ashtrays though). Enjoy your trip!
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We just cancelled our HAL Cruise for next year because of smoking. Just not willing to take a chance of having our 20th wedding anniversary cruise ruined by surrounding smokers.
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