This folks, is my gripe. Whether it is on the deck or in the theater - it drives me nuts. I don't care if a fellow saves a seat for his wife or a kid but to save a fricking row of seats! On the Enchantment, at a Bingo event, this fellow had spread papers on no less than 10 or 12 seats up front. I walked up, with wife and son, picked the papers up and tossed them. The guy came over and said that he was saving the seats and I told him he couldn't save seats - read the Compass. He made some smartass comment, picked up the rest of his papers and left. It is necessary to confront such morons head on - that's the only way to put the screws to them. I'm sorry, but I just can't save seats - I would for my wife but that is it - when folks ask me to save seats, they are asking me to impose on others and I will not do it.
Whether on a cruise or in day-to-day life, I can't STAND people who save seats/space-in-line. And the people who ask you to save for them are just as bad - too lazy to get to the place in time, or too chicken to try it themselves. And when a cruise line specifically says you can't do it, it makes my day to take saved seats. Sure, saving a seat for someONE who's in the john or at the bar IS reasonable. But for a large group? These are the same people who cut in line as if they're the most important people on earth. Sheesh.
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These are the same people who save those lounge chairs for thier "group" for literally hours. Sure wish that practice would stop, totally agree with you both.
"These are the Same people who cut in line as if they are the most important people on earth" - This made me chuckle; we booked a one-week cruise out of New York on Zenith [Celebrity] for our 40th anniversary - an extra cruise; our 10th. New Yorkers are a breed apart, let me tell you. After embarkation we headed up for lunch, and overheard -probably 50 times - "We expect 'preferencial' treatment" and "I think we're suppose to get 'preferential treatment' " and " As 'preferential treatment' do you suppose we're suppose to get at the front of the line?" I don't know who had told these folks that - but there were 1200 + passengers ALL expecting 'preferential' treatment -that is WHY they were on a cruise! We just giggled - until we ran into a group of these same folks on a bus headed back to Hamilton, Bermuda -and abusing the bus driver with loud, boistrous & rude talk [ these were NOT youngsters - they were all OVER 70 - from New York.] After "Hey, Hey HEY -WE wanna get off at da ship!" we looked at each other and decided to ride the bus an extra two blocks or so and hike back [down hill] to the dock area. It was funny -because, unbeknownst to us -5 OTHER couples had the exact same idea - we all hiked back to the ship laughing! Never again -sail out of NEW YORK.............
Don't get me wrong, there are a LOT of terrific people from New York who know how to behave in public - but, on this ship, last June - they were by FAR, in the minority. We had lunch with the couple that had arranged for a very large group from a retirement area. HE said "Never again!" .........
The key word here is "NEW YORKER" (not those from upstate who unfortunately have to share the appelation). They are amongst the rudest and most self-centered people I have encountered on my extensive travels. They have been raised to believe that the world revolves around them and thier rancid city and that the rest of us are ignorant hicks. I actually had one ask me if they had clean restrooms where I live at the Jersey Shore. I told her that we toss a shovelful of lime through the hole in the outhouse daily and that we change the Sears Catalog 4 times a year. I work in New York City and can't wait for my daily escape (I am only in it for the money).
I have hated line butters since grade school, I am sailing in June on the Voyager. I live for someone to line butt or save a seat. I play fair but I will play if that crap starts...watch the fun.
I AGREE! this is my most favorite peeve! and even traveling with another couple, seems my wife and I are ALWAYS sitting in the show lounge asked to save seats for the other couple who had "this and that" to hurridely do before coming and they invariably slip in about 1 minute late...ughhhh! oh well, we enjoy them otherwise but it just doesn't seem to sink in with some people..we didn't save one night and told them we just had to do "something" ourselves and they found another seat, sending "hurt" glances our way...sorry, I had to vent a little....
Folks, it is like Ann Landers says, folks can't run over you unless you let them. It's time that folks with smarts and common sense fight back. Why do we let ignorant clods do these things?
We cruised on the Voyager last summer and when my wife and I got to the evening show, late - as usual, there were numerous single seats all over the joint. We went upstairs and I found a row of four or five empty seats together. We walked down the stairs to the row and began to move in on two of the seats. A lady sitting at the end said the seats were saved. I gave her hardly a glance and sat my fat ass down and parked my wife next to me. I could tell she was pissed but then that goes with being an ignorant clod. She's the horses ass, not me.
I seen it on my last cruise and in the theatre, fat bird covering three chairs, with "things" for others and to "book" them.
Response, can you please move your stuff as its stopping me sitting here, oh and you cannot book "seats" on this ship. Simple response or action, the ship sets the rules
She moved the stuff and them moved herself as she did not have enough seats in a row
I was witness to this in April on the Freedom. I got to the theater ONE HOUR early. I had my camera there to help me kill time by looking at my pics I had taken. A group came in with a range of age from teen to nearly dead (70+) and they literally saved the FIRST TWO ROWS of seats for their family. They commented on how it was a special night for their elderly parents and took full advantage to BLOCK and HOG the whole two first rows. They showed up 45ish minutes before the show so my thought is, WHY couldn't the WHOLE party show up together at the same time....
I also saw it on January on the Valor for the blue rockers on Lido deck. I went to the deck party VERY EARLY and scouted all but three of the chairs were vacant. I went up there and three people were spaced out enough that when I was gonna sit down they rather rudely told me the seas were saved for their friends and family who were "on their way." On their way meant they showed up at 11:30 before the deck party started...I was there at around 10:30. I got the same for the other side of Lido deck chairs, it seems that "group" was one of 150 people and everywhere I went that cruise in Jan 09 seats/chairs were being saved for "their on their way" people...I didn't even sit in ONE of those blue rockers in seven days because people rudely saved them even to watch a movie at night!!!
I cruise alone. I take up one seat, so please, be nice, let me sit where I darn well want to!!!!
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My hubby and I cruise together. I only time he saves me a seat is if I have to stop by the ladies on the way to the show. So he saves it for maybe 5 or 10 minutes. It's so rude of people to take that much space as saved.
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When you have found lots of seats saved by someone for a big party, have you talked to the staff about it and if yes, what did they say about it?
I understand that many of the staff don't want to tell passengers that they can't save seats, because many passengers are very rude, but most of the time it's rather easy to find an officer to talk to. If the cruiseline has a "no seatsaving policy", the officer shall help you!
We were on the Crown last year and we went early because I had read that it was hard to get seats at the shows, well someone was 1 row in front of us saving serveral seats. A worker who was helping find seats came and ask the 2 women if they were saving seats and they said yes. Well she said you can't do that and told the 2 people she had escorted that they could sit there. It was wonderful. They griped the entire show, but the people they were saving them for never showed up.
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I think that the cruiselines need to be more diligent inenforcing their rules. We actually saw a fist fight over a seat saving arguement.
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I am a senior and the worst savers of all are seniors on the cruises I we have been on. They seem to think the world owes them something and I assume they have been rude all their lives. We were ask in the theater if we could move to another row as the group of seniors wanted our entire row. We refused and got the worst looks and mumbleing we ever saw. You guys have posted some really great comments. Wish the "seat savers" would read some of these remarks.
I am a senior and the worst savers of all are seniors on the cruises I we have been on. They seem to think the world owes them something and I assume they have been rude all their lives. We were ask in the theater if we could move to another row as the group of seniors wanted our entire row. We refused and got the worst looks and mumbleing we ever saw. You guys have posted some really great comments. Wish the "seat savers" would read some of these remarks.
I am a senior and the worst savers of all are seniors on the cruises I we have been on. They seem to think the world owes them something and I assume they have been rude all their lives. We were ask in the theater if we could move to another row as the group of seniors wanted our entire row. We refused and got the worst looks and mumbleing we ever saw. You guys have posted some really great comments. Wish the "seat savers" would read some of these remarks.
Amen to that!
People like that NEVER see themselves as in the wrong....they wouldn't recognize themselves in this thread if you called them by name...
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Dont hit those that cant defend themselves, but consider why the seniors for lots of reasons do what they do and basically as people they "cant help it". Its just how they are, I see it all the time. Dining room for first sitting opens at 6pm, but they turn up at 5:15 and begin a Q to get in first,,,why?
They already have a table to go to even if they turned up at 6:10 the seat would still be there,,,why do that?
Breakfast is at 8am on their clock, what happens is again another Q of folks that think you have to eat at certain times and at that time in the Windjammer or buffet area and in their head if you eat breakfast after 9am then its lunch,,,why do that?
As I grow older I just pray that for all sorts of reason I dont get passed that "switch" that will suddenly turn me into a,,,mmmm
My story wasn't on a ship, but at Universal Studios in Florida. We got in line, one french girl was in front of us. She motioned for the guy behind us to get in front of us with her. This went on and on till my husband finally said "NO, I know you understand that." There must have been 20 of them. Wouldn't it have been easier for her to get behind us, then for 20 to get in front of us? She and those who had already line jumped in front of us finally got behind us so they could all be together. Made me have the impression that the french are very rude.
I just read your post, Could you imagine if I told the people whom were saving seats, that they need to move, because they were in the seats I am saving for my group?
The flip side of the coin.
When I sit on a seat that someone 'thinks' they have reserved for Ms/Mr absent and they complain; I ask them to point out the plaque that states they have purchased the said seat and have exclusive rights to it.
I understand what you went through with those New Yorkers, I hate those NY attitudes and I am from NJ. Thats why I moved out west to Colorado...I am now a nice midwestern girl with manners. I hated the NYers.
So what does everyone do when you go to sit on deck and all the chaise chairs are "being held" with a book and/or towel? I have seen this numerous times, found a seat elsewhere only to see the "saved seats" never occupied. I so want to move their stuff and sit down. Selfish and disrespectful to others, do you think?
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