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Old May 26th, 2004, 07:50 PM
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I do not like to see children being allowed to run all over the ship bumping into others!
I have seen this many times without the parent saying a word to them.Also parents who allowed their children to cry and throw tantrums in the main dining lounge.
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Old May 27th, 2004, 12:38 AM
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On our last cruise, a 3/4 yr old almost went head first over the railing into the ocean because mom was too engrossed in her pizza. An older woman (60s) pulled him down and was in hysterics. mom couldn't be bothered to even say thank you, she just laughed.

At the Q & A with the ship's staff about life on board, we mentioned it, and the cruise director and captain were horrified.
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Fortunatly, I have only see that kind of horrible behavior (parents) on 2 cruises. One was Disney and the other NCL/Dawn our of NY. The Dawn was a nightmare! 600 kids and parants who didn't give a damn. Get this.........at 1 am, parents were in the casino and their kids (some 3 & 4 at best) were playing right outside the entrance to the casino! We know this, becasue our room was right below the hall of the casino and hubby went up becasue of all the noice. The "babies" were running and playing with a big ball hitting everything in sight. We called security every night, to NO avail. We will never step foot on NCL.
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Old May 27th, 2004, 07:19 AM
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We are going on the Dawn in late Oct. Hopefully there will not be many children on that trip. I always notice this ever since I started cruising. I wont talk about it here anymore. You just get bashed here for positing it.
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Old May 27th, 2004, 07:51 AM
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IMHO children learn by example enuff said
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Old May 27th, 2004, 08:02 AM
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Not all parent do not care how their children behave. I was on the Dawn in the beginning of May with my 2 1/2 and 5 year old and whenever my kids acted out I excused myself and them, apologized and removed them from the situation and diciplined them. I do not allow that behavior anywhere-public or at home.
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Old May 27th, 2004, 09:00 AM
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I wish more parents were like you.It is the parents that ignore their children's bad behaviour that gets to me.Some say don't cruise when kids are out of school but some of us don't have much choice in when they get their vacation.
Also the cruise lines are at fault in some matters for not enforcing rules.
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Old May 27th, 2004, 09:12 AM
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Thanks Travelling fools!
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Old May 27th, 2004, 09:57 AM
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Agree with Travelling fools, great job Bahamabound :-)

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exactly! children learn by example.
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Bahamabound, I wish all parents were like you.

It drives me crazy when people just ignore their kids and let them run amok causing havic and stress for all the other passengers. They have this attitude that their cute little adorable munchkin could never do anything wrong. Everyone loves them. Either that or they are to lazy and they don't want to be bothered with actually having to discipline the little brat. Just more proof that there are some people out there who should not be allowed to breed.

Heaven forbid they were responsible parents! Franky1 you are so right.

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Old May 27th, 2004, 12:15 PM
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Our last cruise in April aboard Celebritys Century, there was two kids near by that every evening screamed. It was awful, by the last few nights they finally stopped coming to dinner. I wonder if they were asked not to bring the baby? The baby, I think a year old or so would scream for about 20 mins nonstop, it was quite irritating.
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Old May 28th, 2004, 07:50 AM
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Thanks everyone for your praises!
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Old May 28th, 2004, 08:14 AM
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Yes, Bravo, Bahamabound! Wish there were more parents like you, there probably wouldn't be ANY posts about unruly children!! Glad to take responsibility for your chitlens and don't make others suffer around you...........thank s again!

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Old May 28th, 2004, 09:18 AM
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I love bringing my kids on cruises but would never bring a baby onboard. My daughter just turned one yesterday and she is just learning to eat with us during meals. She is a eater like my sons and she eats quitely. If I took her crusing months ago she would screem at the top of her lungs in the dinning room. I'm sure by our next cruise when she will be 2 1/2 she will be ready. My older son cruised when he was 17 months old and loved it.
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I find it truly amazing just what parents think is "cute" like kids jumping on chairs in restaurants and playing with unpurchased toys in stores. I just can't keep quiet at times. You see the sweets little things (sic) opening boxes and all and the parent just comes by and takes the kid - doesn't even make them put things away - that's our next generation people - raise 'em right - they have to support us after all. TTFN Jennifer
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Old May 28th, 2004, 07:57 PM
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hazelson when did you ever not see kids playing with toys in a store? What I don't get is what does got to do with kids on cruise ships? Do your self a favor and watch what you say to people. They just might take some serious action against you. If I'm going to buy toys for my kids that tend to cost $50. to $100. each, they can play. Does one test drive a car before they buy it? Sounds like your out of touch with children.
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I'm gonna bite my tongue before I put my heart & soul into posting... no one knows what its like in someone elses shoes.... you may THINK you do, but you dont !!
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I've been on these boards for about 4 years and have never seen anyone here post that their kids were brats. I guess everyone on CruiseMates has well behaved children!

O.K. folks here's a scenario. The family is in the room for the night. Little 7 year old Johnny says he'd like to go get a slice of pizza and bring it back to the room. The parents agree and let him go. Guess what, once he closes the cabin door he hauls ass down the hallway, get's into the elevator and punches all the buttons before he exits, runs across the pool deck jumping over the chaise lounges, goes into the buffet area cutting corners around the tables, gets his slice of pizza and hauls butt back to the room.

He's only been gone 6 minutes and Mom and Dad have no idea what he did while he was out of sight and irritated passengers are thinking how Mom and Dad have no parenting skills.

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Old May 29th, 2004, 01:23 AM
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Amen Thomas!!!

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Old May 29th, 2004, 07:24 AM
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Who in the world would let a 7 year old roam a ship without supervision? I know that there is security etc.. on board ..but 'what if?'
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I have seen kids 4 and up with other children, alone. (some younger) No supervision! Our son is 7 and has cruised with us since he was 3. He is always supervised. If he isn't in the "kid zone" , one of us is with him. We haven't decide when to let him "wander" around, but it won't be anytime soon. We have cruised many times without a child and know how unsupervised children can affect the relaxation of a cruise. We are doing everything possible to drill proper behavior into our son. I must say, he usually acts like a perfect gentleman in public. Now we have to work on his behavior "behind the scenes" lol.
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Old May 29th, 2004, 10:04 AM
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On our first cruise, my daughter was 9. I didn't like the fact that she could sign herself out of Camp Carnival on her own and go where ever she wanted. She knew she had to wait for one of us to come get her and was never to be without supervision.

One day while I was sitting in the atrium, relaxing, I look up and see my daughter and another girl come running down the stairs. They were on a scavenger hunt, running all over the ship. A Camp Carnival "unsupervised" activity. Needless to say I checked the camp sechedule a little closer from that point on. Camp Carnival is great, don't get me wrong but I just didn't think that was an appropriate activity, encouraging kids to be running all over a ship looking for items for their hunt. My daughter is not an angel and far from being unruly, but anyone who might have seen these two girls running around the ship might have thought to themselves...where are these girls parents??

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While on our cruise lst fall, 2 little girls appx 6y/o were left ,seemingly unsupervised at the aft pool. They ran circles around the pool and raced from shower to shower trying to keep both showers running. They jumped over us as we sat at the edge of the pool. No parent insight. Security cautioned them about running and told them to please not play in the showers. The security officer had to return 3 times! The third time he asked the children to return to their cabin, then and only then did "mom" take notice. She protested the officers demand, didn't think it fair to banish the kids from the pool, the security disagreed and got applause from those of us that were being annoyed.
I enjoy being around children,but this was just plain annoying!


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Thats awesome CruznRN. I wish their were security officers like that on a few of our cruises.
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If this foolish mother wanted to let her kids run, then why did she not take them to the child pool? Glad to see the security officers are doing their job, but what about people reserving chairs?
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We are in the age of ultra-permissive parenting. There is actually a philosophy that setting rules and limits on children stifiles their creative spirit. Somehow, some way children will suffer unless they are allowed to determine their own limits. That is the reason some parents seem totally oblivious to the rude, disruptive and nasty behavior on the part of their beloved children. They are not oblivious, rather they are allowing the child to "self-regulate". Unfortunately, children (and a lot of adults for that matter) are totally incapable of this utopian "self-regulation". If you do not believe this, then why are there so many signs and notices posted regarding permissible behavior? Children need guidance both through direct instruction as well as by example. Children by nature are very self-centered and do not always see the consequence of thier behavior on others. They see things like pushing buttons on the elevator as fun and not in terms of inconvenience to others. Likewise when they run up and down the corridors at all hours they only know they are having fun, not that they are keeping people awake. Most of us are well into adolesence or even adulthood before we acknowledge the consequences of such behavior on others. Judging by the posts in this section that awareness never occurs in quite a few. Hang on folks, it just is going to get worse.

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I just sailed on the Miracle out of Baltimore....there were 300 children on the cruise....But, you would not have known it. "Camp Carnival" is wonderful. The only time I saw children was on the pier waiting for excursions.

However, there is always one or two children that spoil it and make it bad for others.....while on the cruise there were two twin boys who were "brats" and their parents did nothing to stop them....as well as most of the crew members. One night while in Phantom Lounge one of the boys was up on the stage and jumped off onto the first row of seats, barely missing a table. His brother sat on the stage while they were calling Bingo......even yelling it once during the game....and the Assistant Cruise Director thought that it was funny.....even making passengers high five this little boy as they came up onto the stage during a preceding "Jeopardy" style game. And, this little boy was eating it up, as well as his mother.

There were far too many children hanging out in places where children shouldn't be. In Las Vegas children may pass through a casino, but they are not permitted to sit or hang around....not so on the ship. I saw many parents allowing there children to feed the slots, thinking that it was funny. I read a post earlier from a parent that said that her children had to pay the "full adult fare" and should be allowed in the hot tubs, etc. Not when it is posted they shouldn't.

The only time that I saw Security was when I was boarding the ship.
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I will say that every time my son came to the casino (@ 14 years old) - he would come get money or a key or tell us where he was off to, etc... that someone would ask him to leave. It got to @ the end of the cruise he would stand outside the door with his arms flailing trying to get his granny to notice him... he would not have gambled... but he would've liked to watch... but he didnt....
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It's not the kid's fault, it's the stupid parents that couldn't raise a goldfish let alone a child that's to blame.
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