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Old June 10th, 2005, 07:57 PM
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This kind of stems from my earlier post about people saying that food is free on cruiseships.

Let me start off by saying that I used to be quite a bit bigger than I am now, approx 70 lbs bigger.

It really bothers me when people look at cruiseships as 7 night all you can eat buffets. I realize the food is good and it isn't stuff you can get anywhere, but why do people have to eat just so much of it. I was looking at my pictures of my cruise on the Sapphire Princess. The pictures of us at breakfast and/or lunch (in the Horizon Court buffet) show our plates being nearly empty. They don't look empty because we didn't take much, they look empty because the plates are so big. Still, I saw people just piling it on, completely filling the plate, and eating it ALL!!!

Then, at dinner, why are people so proud when they order 4,5,6 entrees? I have nothing wrong with ordering several and just trying them, but I'm talking about the people who order one, finish it, order another, finish it, and another and another...and then brag about it.

Just because you CAN eat as much as you want doesn't mean you SHOULD. And to me, it almost takes away from the experience when you have pure gluttons all around you the whole time.

Don't get me wrong, we do eat 3 meals a day on a cruise ship. But we don't fill our plates at the buffet, and we don't order 4 lobster tails and then brag about it (actually, we don't order lobster anyway, but you get my point).

As I said above, I used to be quite a bit bigger, and I'm sure anyone who loses alot of weight would agree that they notice stuff like this more than others. And it does bother me, because I see people really over doing it who clearly shouldn't be.

I know it is not up to me to say what anyone should or shouldn't do, this is just a gripe of mine that I wanted to share.
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It doesn't bother me!

I eat a lot, I mean a lot. I'm in shape and exercise and stuff but I have noticed that when I'm on a cruise I eat even more than normal. I don't know why, I think it's because it's usually good food and it's there and there's plenty of it. Possibly, and I think probably in my case it's because we are on vacation and in a festive mood etc enjoying ourselves that I think I eat more than normal.

But still, it doesn't bother me when others do it too!

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Why shouldn't we eat as much as we want on a cruise? The portions in the dining room aren't exactly huge. If there are foods on the menu I have never tried before, then why shouldn't I try them? The same goes for the buffets. I took alittle taste of everything my first time through the line. Then I went back and got more of what I liked. Calling people gluttons just because they enjoy eating is not very nice. As long as they are enjoying themselves and not eating like a dog, I say eat away. As my italian grandmother would say, mangiare, mangiare.

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Old June 10th, 2005, 08:56 PM
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First of all, about the portion sizes in the dining rooms. I actually think they ARE the correct size. We are just so used to getting dinner at restaurants where portion sizes are several times what is considered normal.

And I'm not calling people gluttons because they enjoy eating, I'm calling them gluttons because they eat WAAAAYYY too much, which I believe is what a glutton is.

And as I tried to say in the original (but realize I didn't), I too eat more than usual on a cruise. But my goodness, when people eat 5 times what they normally eat, it bothers me. I just don't think it is necessary.

Again, maybe it is because I have lost alot of weight that I notice this, and maybe that is why it bothers me, because I see what people are doing to themselves.
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People go on cruises for a variety of reasons. It's a vacation for sure, but the attraction is varied for a number of people. Some people will love the different ports they visit. Some people will love the great shopping bargains. Some people will love the unpack once and do anything life. Some people (like myself) will love being able to indulge in beer and play in the casino without driving. And then some people will love being able to ditch the diet and eat whatever and whenever they want.

Let us all enjoy our vacation on the ship any way we choose, as long as we don't interfere with anyone else's vacation.

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Old June 11th, 2005, 12:03 AM
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I haven't dieted for this many months Not to go and eat all that I want. I have earned and Paid for that right. Not going to feel bad if someone doesn't like what they see. I'm going to eat all I want and when I want! Don't like seeing what I have on my plate...Don't look.
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Old June 11th, 2005, 12:19 AM
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Wow...I didn't realize people were so defensive. Why does it have to be all about food? I'm not asking anyone to feel bad, I'm trying to say that to me, it is rather disturbing how people cram as much into themselves as they can because they want to get their money's worth.

Again, I am the first to admit that I have more than usual while on a cruiseship...but gosh, at some point people need to learn some self control. I realize it is only for a week, but still, a little moderation wouldn't kill anyone.
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Well, my wife has many talents, but cooking is not one of them. She does not even like to try. And I don't cook either. So there you are! All the food I've ever had on a ship has been excellent, because it meets the only two requirements I have ---- someone else cooks it and some one else brings it to me! This does not mean that I "pig out" on a cruise. It just means that I try a little of this and a little of that, becuause if my dinner is two course at home, I've really lucked out!

In our house we had built, there IS a kitchen, and it is in great shape. Never been used. We had it put there for resale value!

But seriously, folks, there are an increasing number of hoseholds where nobody gives a darn about cooking. In the general population, the percentage of meals eaten at restaurants is on the rise. And this is perhaps one factor in the rise of the popularity of cruise vacations in the past 15 or so years.

In the meantime, at home, the only food I can get delivered prepared here is pizza. If someone around here offerd real meals delivered, they would become billionaires! I actually met the age requirement for "meals on wheels" for senior citizens, but didn't meet the "need" requirements. Where else but in the good ole USA can a guy say, I'll pay whatever it takes, just feed me" and be turned away?

I have a dream too, and it is to staff my house like a cruise ship (even like a budget line ship --- except that I'll be able to bring alcohol "onboard" because, heck, I own the place). This is why so many of us like to cruise. On a cruise, people serve us. Maybe not always as we would like, but they do serve us, and I always like it. And we get good food with much variety. Even if we complain about it, isn't it better than what you get at home, when you don't go out to eat? In my case, oh, yeah! Thing is, in a couple of years, I may be able to actually LIVE this dream. After all, the servant-less house may well go down in history as a "silly 20th century idea." Study your history and think about it. Ain't it true?

But, in the meantime, let's all cruise our favorite line and just enjoy the food, with no guilt. Where else are you giong to be properly fed? If you are like me, it certainly is not at home!!!

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"at some point people need to learn some self control. I realize it is only for a week, but still, a little moderation wouldn't kill anyone".................sblahars

Who decides where that mythical point is, you???

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Old June 11th, 2005, 11:01 AM
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On a cruise, I am too busy eating to notice what others are eating.

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Old June 11th, 2005, 04:25 PM
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If someone (who you're not related to) has gluttonous eating habits, look the other way. I find when I spend time criticizing and judging other people, it gives me the perfect excuse to not deals with my own shortcomings. Who put me - or you or you or you - in charge? And since I'm frequently imperfect when it comes to criticizing (haha), I'd be more critical of the person who ordered multiple entrees, tasted each of them and then wasted the rest of the food rather than the person who ate it all. But I have to remember it's none of my darn business. None.
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Old June 11th, 2005, 07:39 PM
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Practice moderation on a cruise - unthinkable! TTFN Jennifer
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Old June 11th, 2005, 08:54 PM
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I just think gluttony is when people heap their plates high and don't finish it all. It is not just confined to cruise ships. I've seen that happening at buffet resturants as well.
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Why anyone would care what other people are eating? Personally I prefer to concentrate on enjoying myself not on critiquing other people's eating habits.
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Old June 12th, 2005, 01:47 PM
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We have all decided when that point will be......Debarkation Day
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Zeno, unnecessary waste affects the cruise lines profitability. Low profits affect the quality of service and food for everyone else. I think nobody has a problem with a person eating their fill, but the volume of food left on the plate when the meal is finished.

We do the same thing with land fills (paper or plastic) water, and trees. Sooner or later someone will have to pay the price for the gluttony of others. So yes, some of us care.
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Zack:
Originally the post was about eating NOT wasting Two different things. If you actually read my post you will see that I was referring to EATING not wasting. I don't obsess about the EATING habits of other people but I would rather not see food wasted.
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No food on a cruise ship is "wasted". Whether you leave it on your plate or leave it on the buffet or just don't order enough of it , the excess is disposed of. What else could they do with it? Regardless, it is all paid for no matter how much is left over.
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My original post wasn't about wasting food...but since the topic has come up, of course wasting food is a problem. Someone said food is not wasted because "it is all paid for no matter how much is left over"

If I go to a store, but 2 lbs of hamburger, and consume only 1 pound and throw the other pound away...then that 1 pound was wasted, even though it was already paid for. So by saying that the food is not wasted because it is paid for doesn't make much of an argument.

It is a problem when a kid goes to the buffet and takes 3 pieces of pizza and throws 2 of them away. Those two pieces were wasted, and means another two pieces have to be made to make up for it. All of that adds to costs. The more waste there is, the higher the operating costs, which results in higher fares.

I'm sure lots of work goes into calculating how much food needs to be prepared so that a minimal amount will be left in a buffet station. When people take too much and don't eat it.
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Don't know about you, but on the 6th or 7th day of the cruise, the food is not as fresh as it was on day one and it starts to look familar. It's called leftovers. The food requred to feed 2000 people is based on comcumption and waste, not just food that is eaten. The topic oft his post is about waste and gluttony.

Therefore if less food was wasted, less food would have to be bought and the food served would be a better quality as the overhead would be less.
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"when people eat 5 times what they normally eat"
How do you know that's what they usually eat and maybe the whole reason they went on the cruise is for the great, never ending flow of food?
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When a person pays for their passage on a cruise ship, I believe they can eat as much or as little as they want. Who cares what the other person is eating. Itís all part of our vacation to eat what we want, instead of the fast meals we usually get in our fast paced lives
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To me, there is just something disturbing (and disgusting) about people getting into the mindset of: "I already paid for it...and so I have to stuff my face as much as possible."

It just seems so uncivilized. Again, I do admit, I usually eat more than usual on a cruise, but I don't cram every single space in my digestive system.

And I'm not saying people don't have the right to do this. They did pay their ticket and have every right to do have as much as they want. I just don't think that you should just because you can.
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I always thought there was nothing worse than a reformed smoker. I may be wrong -- now we have reformed overeaters who are teminally offended by gluttony??

Disclaimer: I am a reformed smoker and am 30 pounds down on Weight Watchers. While I am pretty certain that smokers should be controlled I am not bothered by gluttons.

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Offended is not the right word. It is not offensive, it is disturbing and uncivilized.
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I guess some people will get disturbed over anything.

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If "you are what you eat" is a true statement, then I don't care to see myself in a mirror.

What you eat or don't eat is your business. What I eat or don't eat is mine!
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What you eat is my business if you snatched it from my plate after diverting my attention.

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Doug, stop putting such irrestible, tempting items on you plate.
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Amen DougR!!!!! I was thinking the same thing about the smoker aspect.
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