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Went to book an excursion in Costa Maya. The same one we have done three times before. NOW there is an age limited..50!!!!!!!!!

Everytime we have doen this excursion, large people have had great difficulty due to the very small size of the two person motorboats they use.
I could honestly understand a weight limit, but an age limit? Many states don't even force "old people" to re-test for dirver's licenses.

Yeah, we are angry....
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what was the reason for the age limit?
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What is the excursion?
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Costa Maya and ports like it, actually there should be an age limit on all excursions

Since people of a certain age should by now understand …that they are getting ripped off time and time again . I can understand the "kids" falling for it, but maybe only once.

But your old,,,, and so you should know better 8)

Plus in that age bracket there is a very good chance you may take ill during said excursion,, and climbing up more steps to the "whatever" in one hour than you have done all year at home.

Think about it, us old geezers go for it, get half way up the "thing", have a heart attack and die.....that's terrible, and not acceptable. Do we not realise by dying in this way presents such terrible problems for the Captain?

And how much the rest of our "friends" may have to adjust their vacation, as sailing could be late, and casino's may not open at the time our "mates" expect. 8)

And the poor waiter is going to have to explain why Mr or Mrs X are not joining tonight in the dining room, as one of them died climbing up a “something?….that is so inconsiderate to your fellow diners….dying. 8)

So what are they saying here is, come on our cruise, but don’t do anything if you are over a certain age that could have an influence on our medical bills, sailing times and "whatever" for everyone else.


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Yea, but the age limit at 50??? You wouldn't believe what I do for 8 hours at work and then be told there is an age limit to ride a 2 man boat??? Could this be true?
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Obiviously this rule was caused by a precedent.
Someone in our age bracket had problems.
I am certain that the excursion operator tries to encourage participants, not eliminate them.
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Went to book an excursion in Costa Maya. The same one we have done three times before. NOW there is an age limited..50!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, we are angry....
what cruiseline or tour company is this ??
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Man, you old fogey's, always complaining. Just get out of the way so us younger, hipper and cooler people can take over. When it's my time, I'll turn over the reigns gracefully. Let's see now....my last birthday was....hmmm. Uh oh!

Forget what I said. Darn the younger generation!
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thasic,
Very funny. Got my chuckle of the day. Thanks!
Having lived in Miami for a long time, I know quite a few folks who worked for cruise lines. Usually what happens is that someone dies or is seriously injured on a tour, lawsuits ensue, and the cruise line's insurance company sets new guidelines. Not determined by cruise line or tour guides. In fact, they often find it an overreaction.
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Donna .....

"You wouldn't believe what I do for 8 hours at work and then be told there is an age limit to ride a 2 man boat"

My lack of the english language astounds me...again,,,there are so many questions and thoughts on the above..... I dont know where to begin 8)
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It seems to me that 50 is getting younger everyday!
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I am 47 years old....hopefully, next year I'll be 46!!!
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50 eh? I am glad that I am only 18 then
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Since the OP has not come back with more details

I am wonder if it was "maximum 50" meaning limited to 50 people not age 50
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Since the OP has not come back with more details

I am wonder if it was "maximum 50" meaning limited to 50 people not age 50
lulu, I'm thinking you are onto something!
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ROTFL You might be onto it. That is a fantastic thought! 50 max.
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Seem more likely than age 50.
I know some 70 years olds that have more energy than I do
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Since the OP has not come back with more details

I am wonder if it was "maximum 50" meaning limited to 50 people not age 50
lulu, I'm thinking you are onto something!
Would love to know the ship and excursion.
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This salutary policy brings to mind another possiblilty: nobody over 50 should be allowed to buy or consume alchohol. Everybody knows the mind goes soft at a certain age, and while not all old people are mental, some are, and we really should not take a chance. Just as not all youth cannot handle liquor.

I understand the old folks and teens hate these pre-emptive rules, but we middle-aged people know what is best for them.

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Went to book an excursion in Costa Maya. The same one we have done three times before. NOW there is an age limited..50!!!!!!!!!

Everytime we have doen this excursion, large people have had great difficulty due to the very small size of the two person motorboats they use.
I could honestly understand a weight limit, but an age limit? Many states don't even force "old people" to re-test for dirver's licenses.

Yeah, we are angry....
This just aint right, nuff said!!!
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We are on Rhapsody of the Seas..leave in 2 days..June 3.
Tour is a two person boat that leaves from uvaro beach (port is Costa Maya). They take about 8 little boats out to a coral reef, dock at a floating dock and then offer a superb snorkel experience. According to RCI, the tour operator has set the restriction due to previous problems. Once we are onboard, we can sign a waiver, so there are options.

But, yes, I was steaming about the age thing.
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I can get this "steaming" about the age thing. But let me give you a personal example

I dont keep good health, found out in the last year I have a heart condition and blood pressure levels to burst most scales.

But I wanted to and did climb the "wall" up the ships funnel just before diagnoses and would have done later, even if it killed me But thats me

So doing that and knowing my condition was MY choice, so I dont blame the lines or ships from either getting a disclaimer or for some things being realistic and saying,,"take a step back as your body may not be as young as your mind thinks it is"

Sometimes others have to think for some people, me included
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Since the OP has not come back with more details

I am wonder if it was "maximum 50" meaning limited to 50 people not age 50
That's what I'm thinking too.

50 is pretty young ... I can't imagine a tour operator denying access to a tour based on such a relatively young age. I have seen access denied based on weight for certain activities, or maybe physical health (such as no one who has a heart or back condition), but age? 50? Doesn't make sense. I wish to that the OP would come back and tell us exactly what type of activity we are talking about here. My lord, I've never been denied access to such "extreme" things as skydiving and bungee jumping based on age. I can't imagine an excursion more strenuous than that.

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50 eh? I am glad that I am only 18 then

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Well, I am 58 and proud of it. I can climb, run, skip and ride just as good as any 49 year old . I get my senior citizen discounts at Wendys, McDonalds, Shony's, etc. AND, I am a card carrying member of AARP.

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I've had to sign waivers for snorkeling at ages both below and above 50. These waivers released the cruise line and tour operator form "risks inherent in snorkeling." The form also described what some of those risks are (coral cuts, etc.). The waiver did not release anybody from their active negligence (such as if the boat operator were drunk and drove the boat into a rocky shore). IMO, such waivers should be used for all guests booking snorkeling tours and similar -- but they should not differentiate based on age.

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I've had to sign waivers for snorkeling at ages both below and above 50. These waivers released the cruise line and tour operator form "risks inherent in snorkeling." The form also described what some of those risks are (coral cuts, etc.). The waiver did not release anybody from their active negligence (such as if the boat operator were drunk and drove the boat into a rocky shore). IMO, such waivers should be used for all guests booking snorkeling tours and similar -- but they should not differentiate based on age.
I think pretty much any active excursion operator will make you sign a waiver these days. The cruise line will demand it.

... you think you've signed waivers. Try tandem skydiving sometime. You don't just sign a waiver ... you sign waiver packets. They give them to you in a file folder and it's generally a ten to 15 minute project to get through them all.

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